Promising
and Proven Strategies for State MCH Partnerships with Academic Colleagues
Holly
Grason: Good afternoon. And I'm
really delighted to be here and to see you all. Can we go forward?
Lauren Kavanaugh: Sure
Holly
Grason: And we can go forward again. Thank you.
Okay. So quickly, I just wanted
to go over what we're about today. Our
intent is to explore with you some of the synergies of state and academic
problem solving partnerships in order to realize public health goals. And as I'm sure all of you know from your
various years of professional experience, there are many problems in the
problem solving partnerships and we wanted to share with you some of the
strategies that we've evolved in working together over the years and in
collaborating with others around the country to hope to sort of stimulate
further thinking and glean from your ideas and to share some ideas with you all
about how we can do more of it and better of what partnering we do do. Identifying short- and long-term prospects
for developing and maintaining partnerships and then to get, again, to begin a
dialogue to inform design of future efforts.
So how we're going to go about doing this is I'm going to spend a few
minutes describing the Women's and Children's Health Policy Center at the Johns
Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, which I am very privileged to be a
part of, as just one example of a group of faculty who have organized
themselves with various partners to try to achieve the aims of interfacing with
the practice and the policy community.
So with that as background then, I've co-opted some state partners and
federal partners, as usual. That's
where I think I do spend most of my time as director of the center, sort of
co-opting people to engage in these activities with me. Sally Fogerty is going to talk about
evolving a national strategy through a federal, state, and academic partnership
and that was in Charting the Course for the Future of Women's and Perinatel
Health, something that we were working on over the past actually five to seven
years and it continues in its various forms and derivatives now. I'm going to talk for a little bit, I was
unsuccessful, the Colorado folks were so popular this afternoon they had to be
in many places. So I'm going to speak
on behalf of a group of family planning directors in Region Eight, and talk
about how some regions can come together around shared problems and work with
academic centers perhaps to attack some very real challenges that often states
and programs are faced with. And then
Susan Panny is going to talk about a partnership that evolved in Maryland with
her program, Title V Program, in the Maryland Health Department. And I know many of you are familiar with one
of these strategies or another but hopefully we can give you a flavor. Laura is going to talk a little bit about
some more examples from around the country.
Again, we're just sort of one such group that does this kind of work in
working with states and the federal government to try to translate and apply research
and policy and also to take practice-based problems, practice-based experience
and bring it into the research and academic arena. So Laura will share some more examples. And then we're hoping to have some time to actually brainstorm
with you and problem solve with you.
We've passed out index cards and if you haven't already, if you can
think about some specific kind of challenges that you think such partnerships
could be formed around, the ones that you know of personally. Laura will take the cards up towards the end
and we'll discuss it as a panel and with you.
So that's how we're going to go about the next hour or so. So anyway, what is the Women's and
Children's Health Policy Center? Well,
this is our mission statement up here.
I almost forgot to put it in and I thought I had to practice what I
preach when I sort of go out and work in states. But our mission statement says that we draw upon the science base
of the university setting to conduct and disseminate research to inform MCH
policies and programs and the practice of MCH nationally. Some of the key words in there is we
basically organize ourselves or do work that is of national scope
primarily. That is not to say that we
don't work with individual states, but we have, for the most part, worked on
issues that are shared by a large number of states and over a long period of
time. We usually engage in long-term
agenda work, and I say that to distinguish our particular center with many
other centers, which are also very key and very productive who work more in the
Washington, Capitol Hill, state government, legislative arena, where there's a
sort of fast short-term kind of response, analysis and so forth, and that's a
little bit different kind of center than we are. And our specific orientation is towards the application of
scholarship in MCH and the linking between them. I want to tell you just a tad about how we organize ourselves
because we do it intentionally and systematically to address some of what I'm
sure many of you are familiar with:
traditional barriers of linking between academia and practice and policy
in maternal and child health and in public health generally. Actually it was three years ago this month
we had, with funding from the MCH Bureau and the Agency for Healthcare Research
and Quality, Quality and Research, Research and Quality, convened a conference
also called Building Bridges, where we brought together--some of you were here,
were at that meeting with Health Services Researchers, with foundations, with
other federal agencies in talking about what some of the barriers and
opportunities were. And the traditional
ones, we in the Ivory Towers tend to be very slow at what we do. I think states have a reputation of being
slow-moving and universities have a reputation of being even slower, behind the
elephants or at the tail of the elephant chain. We move slowly. We very
often are not really familiar with your daily schedules, with your daily
challenges, with your real needs, and what the constraints and the parameters
are of implementing maternal and child health programs of developing policies,
of promoting advocacy agendas, on a day-to-day basis. And so very often what we do in terms of research and teaching
can easily become disconnected. Most
academic faculty are not experienced or trained in the field. And also the incentives in academics and in
state government and in local government or federal government are very
different. And so the incentives, for
example, from where I work now are not necessarily to be here today quite
frankly. Well, put it this way: the personal incentives are great, which is
why I'm here despite the employment disincentives for academic faculty. So the incentives are very different in
government and in policy arenas and in academia. And then on the state end--and as a former state employee myself,
it's almost like we have the wealth of too much information coming from all
sorts of sides and then limited access to other information. So in terms of actually translating research
into your daily work schedules, into your daily plans, what you do with your
staff, with your partners and with your constituents and so forth, you have
very limited resources and very often, major challenges or mountains of paper
to get through to sort of sift out and think about what it is that all this
means in terms of what you need to do for the population. So we organize ourselves where we have a
multidisciplinary faculty, and I mean that in the traditional sense in terms of
public health disciplines, and most of our faculty are traditionally
academically trained but we also have practice experience faculty like myself
and we hope to grow that. I'll talk
about that a little bit later. So we
have not only people who are traditionally trained but people with experience
in the field who are there working in tandem all the time to be able to inform
each other's work. And I think that's
one of the key things that has been very helpful. We have a core stable staff and some of them are here today,
Gillian Silver, who many of you know, who has been very important to the work
of faculty, to the work of the states in terms of use of research, to have
folks who are there all the time who can be externally oriented where faculty
cannot always be. They're sort of torn
between teaching, research and practice.
The staff are there to be that constant link between people in the
practice field and the faculty. We have
instituted links with national organizations in several different ways, and
we'll talk more about some of them. We
have, as a center, what we call the state cluster group, which is a group of
six or seven state MCH leaders like yourselves and Sally's been one of them for
a long time. And let's see if anyone
else is in the room. I guess none of
our other ones are in the room. As well
as national organizations, the Association of MCH Programs represented on that
group as well as some of the professional organizations, Academy of Pediatrics
and the ACOG. And these folks are our
lifeblood in terms of conducting our work in ways that hopefully are making
sense to folks in the practice field.
So we have our state cluster group that we work with very closely and
there'll be some more examples of that.
For some of our health services research projects in particular, we have
national expert research advisory boards that are a mix of state people and
academic faculty and policy makers. We
have links with partnerships for information and communication, the national
membership executive branch and legislative branch. Organizations such as the National Governor's Association, ASTHO,
NACCHO, National Conference of State Legislatures and so forth, the MCH Bureau
organizes this group of organizations.
They meet regularly and we are very honored to be able to meet with that
group--and Laura actually used to run that group--and to be able to sort of
have that kind of ongoing dialogue with policy makers and administrative
executives and as well as other links with national professional organizations. So through a number of venues it's very
important for us to have those kinds of institutionalized links, to be able to
always have our ears open, and to be able to continue a dialogue. I think one of the things that we need to
constantly fight against in an academic setting is the isolation that happens
even when you're in close proximity to where the national policy is made or
where folks think they're making national policy. And then lastly students and we'll talk about that more. And we engage with students in a number of
ways but I think most importantly our commitment is to make sure that the
students that come through our program in the Department of Population and
Family Health Sciences to the extent that we can give good exposure to maternal
and child health practice in the field by working with us on projects in
whatever way that fits with their academic goals. And many logistical issues with that but we try very much to help
make that workable, and I don't see our new one but we have one of our MHS
students--oh, she's staffing the exhibit.
So I hope you'll stop by our booth out in the hallway and meet one of
our current students who's working on a project with us. Laura?
Okay. Here are some of the core
principles that I think will surface in a number of the discussions. We have a fundamental belief or testament
that we collaborate with states from the inception through implementation of
various projects or products that we develop on behalf of states. I spend a lot of time talking with my
colleagues about they can't understand why no one sort of cites their work or
uses their work or whatever and that's because nobody knew about it until it
got into a journal and maybe there was a press release or something got picked
up on it if they were lucky and it got in a newspaper or someone happened to go
to a certain conference where their work was presented. But rather we work with folks from the
beginning in terms of designing our research and so forth so that it's going to
be applicable in the end and hopefully used.
We engage federal and national stakeholders throughout the process and
this is, again, a fundamental tenant of what we do regardless of the specific
topic or project. And the reason for
that being to fundamentally strengthen infrastructure activities nationally
that will support what the states do.
And just as states are very important in what they do on an ongoing
institutionalized basis to community and local projects, it's important for, at
the national level, there be recognition and embracing of what states are
doing. And so it's also a key partner
to have along the way. We strategically
sit down and talk about what are the benefits and rewards for the academic, the
state, and the federal and national partners in any given project we want to do. So that people aren't doing each other
favors, if you will. That there are
actually, in each step of a process as we work with states in a particular area
to address a health problem, conundrum, or need, there's something in it for
everyone and it's not just money because we all know none of us make a whole
lot of money, so let's just get that off the table. And we have to look at what are the incentives in it. Well, we'll give out some examples of
that. And then lastly we device and
pursue companion activities to defuse and sustain the work in the field. So these are the four sort of principles we
keep in mind as we go about our work.
So Gillian, our wiz at bringing us into--bringing me into technology
here developed this little--yeah, you have to keep--there we go. Laura knows how to work it.
Laura Kavanaugh: Do you want
me to go do the whole thing or just do one at a time?
Holly
Grason: Well, one at a time.
Okay. So initially we started
out with states identifying issues and questions to be addressed. We talked about that. Okay.
All right, states participating in design of project and research
instruments along the way. The state
cluster group that I mentioned, we have met with them at least twice a year for
any number of years and say, "Okay this is an area that you want to have
work in. How do we sort of organize
ourselves? What are the kinds of things
we need to know? How to we get that
information out? Who should be involved
and not just who's on our particular faculty, but who else in the country, who
else in the university do we need to bring into this particular endeavor? What other states do we need to consult in
this or federal agencies?" So we
basically design our projects with our state cluster group, for example. So we go and do our sort of faculty thing
for a while and people go back to the states and run the states and make MCH
better and as work begins to progress and we have some preliminary findings
emerging, we meet again usually to craft implementation and translation
strategy so we don't wait until the end and say, "Okay, well, how do we
make this make sense in terms of usable information?" So we come back to our state cluster group. Then usually when we have crafted sort of
almost finished documents, we go through another sort of iteration and this
varies from project to project but usually bringing in a broader range of
reviewers and input into our process because quite often I fear my state
cluster group, or whatever advisory board we're working with on a particular
project has, by then, been very much co-opted by us and will like what it is
because they have been a part of developing it. So we go a step broader usually in terms of getting input from
people who have never seen this before and we say, "Okay, does this make
sense to you?" Disseminating
interim findings and reports, and this was actually something that came to
mind--as some of you know I worked at AMCHP for quite a while before I was at
Hopkins and the frustration of being able to have material to use when you know
it's being developed, it's being developed, it's all most done, in meantime you
legislature is meeting and is this report coming out. And so we have very much made a commitment to as soon as we have
something that can be put into even a brief web format or a handout format or
whatever, put together findings in ways and get them into states hands and then
we work on sort of smoothing out the rough edges and getting the rest of the
publication and product development things in order. So trying to get things out to folks quickly and timely to make
them relevant. Incorporating public
health MCH students in our efforts.
Again, a major commitment to workforce development and hopefully, being
able to entice some folks who are going through MPH programs and doctoral
programs to want to spend their careers in public maternal and child health, in
government service, and in national policy endeavors. And so giving them exposure, and exposure that's supported. I know when I was working in the states, I
did have some students from the same place where I work now, but I had very
little time and guidance. You're all
very, very much pressed in many ways and so to have that sort of person on the
other end to be able to mentor them and to support their academic needs are met
while they are getting exposure to the very hairy life of MCH practice and
government is important but time consuming.
States jointly develop publications.
I think very few of our publications are something that we put out
ourselves. And again this goes back to
the something for everyone, not only states jointly developing publications,
but other organizations. For example,
the MCH functions framework was a publication of ASTHO, CityMatch, AMCHP,
NACCHO, The Federal MCH Bureau, and the Johns Hopkins Women's and Children's
Health Policy Center. We do most of our
work in tandem, which helps encourage dissemination and use in terms of people
having ownership of the products and tools.
We work with our federal partners along the way. As I mentioned this before, building an
institutional policies and practices, an example of that, and this is something
I haven't articulated much but I think I need to work on articulating is early
on in the mid 1990s we were doing some work for the MCH Bureau on primary care
systems, systems of care for children.
And so one of the things we did was evolve a definition of primary care
for states to use because those of you who were around in the late '80s remember,
there was new terminology in the Title V statutory language around primary care
and everyone says, "Well, what does this mean?" Not primary care per se, but primary care
systems and so forth. So the Bureau
asked us to do some thinking, literature review, and so forth on that and we've
developed some frameworks and then those frameworks were built in to the Block
Grant, needs assessment guide, and in to the reporting guides and in to other
materials, some of SPRANS Grants that were let out, so that it was something
that came part of the lexicon and it was supported at the national level as
well as what you were doing in the states.
Collaborative dissemination and customized packaging. Again, I think this is something that more
and more university centers are learning, but you can't just sort of put out
your journal articles are your research briefs, that you actually need to come
and sort of explain to people how they can use that information, how it's a
benefit. And so we spent a good bit of
time on that. Devising and
disseminating related teaching tools.
Again, back to the building the workforce. Much of our work can be used in teaching and not just where we
are working on daily basis but also our colleagues, and so we try to share
those applications with other schools of public health, other MCH programs,
around the country so that, again, we have a common understanding of MCH
research and practice and can be having more productive discussions and future
workforce. Is that the last one? And then lastly ensuring a structure is in
place for TA support for state use and implementation. And this will take different forms in
different projects. And actually I
think they pretty much will be revealed in our discussions, but it's been
important to us. For example, in Past
Five for those of you who are familiar with the capacity assessment for state
Title V programs, tool, this capacity assessment tool that we worked with AMCHP
and the Bureau to develop because there was no ongoing sort of source of funds
for resources for supports to states. What
we did was use our last bit of federal funding to provide two-day training
workshop for people around the country, both state folks, academic folks, and
some independent consultant to be resource colleagues. So even though there was an ongoing set center
where you could call and have some one come out and be a TA, expert, there may
be some one in the state next to you or in your state or whatever who could in
one way or another make arrangements with you to provide assistance and
support. So that's sort of the process
that we use on an ongoing basis. And
next slide; I don't remember what's there.
So at this point I'm going to ask Sally to sit in my seat perhaps. We'll switch things. And she's going to talk about some of her
experiences in one of these projects that we mentioned the charting the course
for the future of women's perinatal health.