Annual EMSC Grantee Meeting
Electronic Handbook (EHB) and Grants.gov:
How Do I use These Tools?
June 20 – 22, 2006
MARY
HOEL: Thank you. As Dan said, my name is Mary Hoel. And IÕve been with the ACSC
for quite a while now. And what IÕm going to be talking about today is the
application and post-award reporting and Grants.gov and HRSAÕs Electronic
Handbooks. Before I get started, I did bring some handouts and theyÕre in the
back table on the circle there. I wasnÕt able to bring 200 because I just
couldnÕt carry them all but I did bring about one for each program, grant
program. So if you want to, while IÕm doing my quick introduction here, if
somebody wants to go back, I have the program performance information --
program specific information forms for each specific project back there; and
also a handout for what you will need to do for your non-competing
continuation, a little bit more detail information IÕll be giving you. You are
more than welcome to get it now or you can get it at the end of the presentation.
And while IÕm doing that, I have a couple of quick questions, just to make sure
weÕre on the same sheet of music so I can understand where you all are if you
have questions.
As
weÕre starting now, who all has already completed their post-award reports?
Great. Okay. And I was talking to Dan this morning, it seems like almost every
one of you is now registered in the Electronic Handbooks and is going to be
able to complete the post-award reports. As you know, the post-award reports is
going to be due on July 3rd, which is about a week and a half from now. Okay?
All right. So, weÕll go ahead and get started now. This is going to provide a
quick overview of what weÕre going to be talking about today. IÕm going to
first talk about the programs specific information, which is essentially
maternal and child health bureaus data and performance measure system. IÕm then
going to introduce where these program specific information forms fall in the
life cycle of your MCHB grants. IÕll then talk about post-award reporting and
then, followed up on what youÕll be doing on your non-competing continuation,
which I believe is Dan going to be fall time about.
DAN:
Yes.
MARY
HOEL: Yes. Okay, heÕll be the fall time for doing the application for that. And
then, at the end, I have some information for you about getting help in
Grants.gov and Electronic Handbooks. Okay, so before I begin, before I talk
about the post-award reporting and the application system, I want to talk about
the program specific information. Now, IÕm sure, as youÕve all been going to
your guidances, you saw in the appendices the program specific forms. Well,
what exactly are these forms? These forms were developed by MCHB to track the
status -- to monitor the discretionary grants program. And these forms are used
throughout the life of your MCHB grants.
So,
youÕll be completing these forms during your non-competing continuations as
well as your post-award reports. The data that was collected from these forms
are used for grant reviews, for analysis and also for public information. The
program-specific information forms collect standard data from all MCHB grant
programs. It collects financial data; they collect your project abstracts as
well as project summary information. In addition to these standard forms, their
programs office sometimes selects additional forms to collect more information
about your programs such as performance measures and additional data elements.
ItÕs up to the program office to determine which MCHB program specific
information forms are used for each program.
Now,
with the three EMSC programs that we have today, each of them have slightly
difference forms that you will be completing. And let me just quickly go over
what forms each program will be completing. For the state partnership programs,
you will be completing the standard forms, which are the three financial forms.
You will be doing your two program forms, which are the abstracts, and the
project summary forms. In addition, you have the three performance measures,
which is PM 66, 67 and 68. And I was looking through the agenda, I can see that
you all been already speaking about there in this meeting, which is wonderful
so you all know about them.
In
addition, you have one additional data element, which is the injury EMS data
form, which will need to be completed. All these forms need to be completed for
your post-award report. Now, for the EMSC targeted issues, again, you will be
doing the standard forms, the three financial forms, the abstract, and the
project summary. Your performance measure however is performance measure three,
which is essentially a list of your publications that has been published during
the previous grant year. And then, for you all, you do not have an additional
data element so these are the forms for the targeted issues.
Now,
for the resource center, again, the standard forms, financial, abstract, and
project summary and thereÕs also a performance measure for this one, which is
performance measure 29. Okay?
Now,
where do these fall into the lifecycle of the MCHB grant? And as I mentioned
earlier, the program specific information forms are used during the
non-competing continuations and during the post-award reporting. So as you can
see from this diagram here, IÕve kind of inserted them so you can see where it
falls in with the life of the grant.
At
the very beginning of your grant cycle, youÕll do a new application. During the
new application, you will not be completing the program specific information.
You will only be completing the forms in Grants.gov. When you are awarded your
funding, you will come in, in about 120 days after you receive your notice of
grant award, you will come in to the Electronic Handbooks and complete your
post-award report. Here you will provide your information for the program
specific information forms. Then, as the year progresses you will go ahead and
do your non-competing continuation, as you see that happens at the beginning of
the next grant year. So youÕll be in your current grant year applying for a
fund for the next year. At that time, you will also come in and complete
additional information for your program specific forms and the cycle just
repeats. Once you get your funding again, you come back in and you finalized
your data from the previous grant year and next year for the non-competing
continuation. So itÕs a continual cycle, once you complete your non-competing
continuation and your post-award your reports.
Okay,
so now IÕm going to talk about post-award reports. Most of you are in the
process of doing that right now. Again, your due date is July 3rd,
which is about a week and a half from now, and as Dan said, I will be here for
the rest of the meeting. So if anyone has any questions or have any problems,
please feel free to come up and ask me. Hopefully, I can answer the question,
if not, lead you to the right direction to answer the question.
So
before I start about post-award reporting, letÕs just give you a setting about
actually where you are. YouÕve submitted your application, itÕs been reviewed
and awarded, youÕve received your NGA and now you have 120 days to do your
reports. Okay. So what does that mean? What does mean you have 120 days to come
and do your post-award report? Well, what that means is that youÕll need to go
into the Electronic Handbooks and complete your program specific information
forms. Okay? YouÕll just be going into the Electronic Handbooks and the website
is at the bottom of the page for you. Okay. Now, while youÕre completing your
post-award report, thereÕs two factors that weigh heavily and what needs to be
done during your report. ItÕs the workflow and how you applied for your
non-competing continuum or for your application actually, for your grant,
either itÕs a new or a post-award or non-competing continuation.
First
of all, with the workflow, you have different requirements depending upon if
youÕre new awardee or if youÕre a non-competing continuation. Also will depend
upon what you need to do is how you applied for your grants. If youÕre a new
grant, you either applied through Grants.gov or you applied through paper.
During that time, you didnÕt do your program specific information forms
electronically. So, you did not do those, thatÕs one scenario. Second scenario
is you were non-competing continuation and you applied via paper. The third
scenario is that youÕre non-competing continuation who applied electronically
through Electronic Handbooks. These different factors weigh on what needs to be
done for your post-award work report and I will quickly summarize these
different activities.
Okay.
Since I have so many different -- I have new awards, non-competing
continuations, I have those that applied via paper or Grants.gov, IÕve provided
a summary here and what IÕll do is IÕll just give you a high-level overview but
this page here will give you information about -- summarizes what you need to
do on each one of different forms depending upon how you applied and what type
of awards you are. For the financial forms, if you are a new awardee, you will
come into the system and you will complete all your financial forms. Okay?
YouÕll complete form One, which is your project summary profile and then youÕll
do form two and form four by providing your current year and future year
budgets. Now, if youÕre a non-competing continuation, who applied via paper,
you will come into the system, you will complete these forms as well just like
the new grantees.
But
in addition, you will provide your expenditure data for the previous grant
year. Okay? Now, if youÕre a non-competing continuation who applied
electronically, that data is already there. So, what youÕll need to do is
youÕll come in and review the data to make sure that itÕs still correct. Make
any modifications that are necessary and also at this time, you will also enter
your expenditure data for the previous grant year. Okay?
Now,
for the form six and seven, form six is your abstract and form seven is your
project summary profile. New awardees, again, will come in and complete all the
forms. Non-competing continuations as well will do this. They will come in and
complete both form six and form seven. Now, if youÕre a non-competing who
applied during electronically, again, youÕll just come in and review the data
to make sure that itÕs still correct and make any modifications that are necessary
and finalize your data.
Now,
for the entry data form, again, new awardees, at this time, will not be
completing this form. ItÕs not applicable for new awardees because itÕs asking
for information for the previous grant year. And since youÕre at the beginning
of your project period, you donÕt have data for your previous grant year. So,
when you first come in, youÕll see the main menu and it will say not
applicable. You will not have to complete this form at the time. You can have
and click it and look at it just to see what would it be but you do not have to
complete it at this time.
Both
for the non-competing continuations, you will need to complete it. Those who
did it by paper will have to come in and complete the form and finalize it.
Those who had submitted their application electronically will come in and
finalize their data.
Your
performance measures, there are five different performance measures for the
EMSC programs. The first one is the performance measure three which is
publication. And this one is a little bit different than the other two, so I
needed to separate them. For new awards, you will not need to complete this
because again, itÕs asking data for the previous grant year, so itÕs not
applicable for you. For those that applied non-competing continuations that
applied via paper, youÕll come in and supply the information for this form. For
those that submitted electronically, will come in and modify the publications,
if you have additional publications from the time you submitted your
non-competing continuation, you can add more publications at this time.
Now,
for the other performance measures, new awardees will come in and they will
supply their current and future year objectives for these various performance
measures. ThatÕs all you need to do. You just say, ÒThis is what IÕm planning
on doing this year and the future years of this grant.Ó For the non-competing
continuations that applied via paper will need to come in and enter their
future year objectives and they also will have to come in and report their
final year indicator or score for the performance measures for the previous
grant year. Now, those non-competing continuations that submitted
electronically will come in, review the forms, make sure the information is
still correct, and also finalize their indicator for the previous grant year.
WeÕve
had a couple of hiccups over the past year about submitting the post-award
report. I just kind of want to talk real briefly about that. In order to submit
your post-award report you need to make sure all your forms are complete. So,
every form that you see on your menu should say complete. Once all the forms
are complete, a little message will show up and say, ÒItÕs now time to go over
to the performance measure page and click the submit report link.Ó Okay? Once
you hit the submit report link, you will receive a confirmation saying that
youÕre post-award report was successfully submitted. If you donÕt receive that
confirmation, it means thereÕs a hiccup and you may want to call the call
center to find out whatÕs going on.
But once you hit the submit report link, you should receive a
confirmation.
Now,
thereÕs two notes I want to make about this. The submit report link will appear
only prior to the deadline. Okay? So, from July 3rd -- excuse me, at
11:59 you can submit it to them. After July 4th that submit report link will be
not there. And you will not be able to submit your report. Okay? And other time
when you may not see that submit report link is that you may not be the project
director. And if youÕre not the project director, you may not have the
privileges to submit the post-award report. Okay? So, if you are submitting it
and youÕre not the project director but your project director wants you to go
ahead and submit it, what youÕll need to do is to go to your project director
and ask him or her to give you the privileges to submit it. ItÕs a very easy
process. But we just need to make sure that you have the privileges to submit
it. Okay? It just needs to be done electronically. Once you receive the
privileges then you can go ahead and submit the report. All right?
So,
back to the life cycle of the MCHB grants. Talked about post-award reporting
and now IÕm going to ahead and quickly talk about the non-competing
continuation process. I know that youÕll be doing this in the next few months
and your focus right now is on the post-award report but I just want to go
ahead and give you some information about your non-competing continuation
because there has been some changes in the past year with this process.
Starting
in January of 2006, all MCHB grants must submit their SF424 electronically
through Grants.gov. Okay? This is a departure from the past. Because it used to
be you used to submit your non-competing continuations only through the
Electronic Handbooks and now you must be submitting both through Grants.gov and
Electronic Handbooks. So now you have two systems, two deadlines, two
registrations, two business processes, two helpdesks. Okay? It can get a little
confusing as who you suppose to call about which question you have. So I have
information at the end with the contact information for the Grants.gov call
center and the HRSA call center. Okay?
So
what is Grants.gov? Grants.gov is a website that the federal government uses to
provide information about federal grants and itÕs also a portal for submitting
federal grant applications. Before you can submit your non-competing
continuation, you must be registered in Grants.gov. Now, registration at
Grants.gov is by organization. ItÕs not by grant as it is in the Electronic
Handbook. So itÕs by organization. So if your organization has different
federal grants, it may already be registered in Grants.gov. So youÕll need to
check it. Organization only needs to register once in Grants.gov. Now this
application, this registration process can take some time. It can take almost a
month. In some cases, a little bit more.
So,
I highly recommend to go back next week and determine if your organization has
been registered in Grants.gov and if it hasnÕt been registered, to start the
process now because you do have a couple of few months before your
non-competing continuation and you just might as well get it done and over with
now to make it sure everythingÕs in place so you could do your non-competing
continuation.
Okay.
HRSAÕs Electronic Handbooks. By now, you all should know what HRSAÕs Electronic
Handbooks are. Most or all of you should be registered in the Electronic
Handbooks. When you come to do your non-competing continuation, you will not
need to register again. You only need to register once. To come in for your
non-competing continuation, you will use your username and password for your
non-competing continuation.
Now,
a couple of points about HRSAÕs Electronic Handbooks. Each person needs to be
registered. Each person whoÕs going to be working on either the post-award
report or the non-competing continuation must be registered on Electronic
Handbooks. Okay?
ItÕs
a two-part process. First, theyÕre going to register themselves then theyÕre
going to link themselves to the organization. And I canÕt stress enough, when
youÕre doing your registration process, to make sure you use your grant number.
Because your grant number will link you up with the correct organization. A
second point about registration in Electronic Handbooks is that your project
director must be registered in the Electronic Handbooks. This person controls
the grants and that person has to be registered in the system because the other
one that starts the non-competing continuation, this person provides grants
access to other participants on the grant to work on this application and the
post-award report. If you have any questions at all about this, how to do the
registration, please feel free to give me a call or call the HRSA call center
and they can walk you through it.
Now,
this is the overview of what actually happens now in your application process
for your non-competing continuations. Again, this is your non-competing
continuation. New applications only go through Grants.gov. Non-competing
continuations go through Grants.gov and Electronic Handbooks. So, letÕs say
were doing a non-competing continuation. WeÕre going getting ready to start it
and we registered in both systems and weÕre ready to go. So the project director
is going to receive a notice of funding announcement and once they receive
this, they will be able to go into Grants.gov and start the application
process. They will go in to Grants.gov, complete their SF424 and any other
materials that they need to finish up in Grants.gov. Once that is completed in
Grants.gov, the authorizing official of you organization will have to submit
the application into Grants.gov. Okay? ItÕs not the project director. ItÕs
going to be the authorizing official thatÕs going to submit the application in
Grants.gov.
Once
the data is submitted in Grants.gov before the deadline, the data will then be
transferred over to HRSAÕs Electronic Handbooks. During the time it could be a
day or two at the most for this transfer, the project director and authorizing
official will receive emails providing with the status of the transfer. Once
the transfer is complete and the grant has been opened up with the electronic
handbooks, the project director can go into her HRSA electronic hands books and
start the non-competing continuations. Okay? They will then command and
complete the application in electronic handbooks by providing the narratives
and other information as well as your program specific information.
So,
youÕre going to electronic handbooks, you complete your supplemental data, and
you submit that by the due date. Now, the project director can submit the
application in EHP. It has not to be the authorizing official but the project
director can submit it here. Once it has been submitted, youÕll need to print
out the face sheet, have your authorizing official sign it and then send it in
to HRSA grants office, which with your address is in your guides, and then
youÕre finished. ItÕs just an easy process? This provides a quick overview of
what I just talked about. Also, in the back as IÕve said I have some, itÕs
called the tech note and that would provide more detailed information as to
what you need to do to do your application for the non-competing continuation,
and again, if you have any questions, call the call centers.
All
right, so IÕm going to quickly talk about what youÕll be needing to do for you
the program specific information forms during the non-competing continuation.
Now, how am talking now, I am assuming that all of you have completed your
post-award report electronically by this time, okay? Because that will impact
what youÕll need to do with your non-competing continuation. All right, so
youÕre going to come in to finish up your application by doing your program
specific information forms. You come in, you complete your financial forms.
Form one, you have to complete in entirety each year, thatÕs for the detailed
budget for that application year. Forms two and forms four, you will come in,
and you will just review the forms to make sure the budgets are still correct;
there hasnÕt been any modification for the post-award reports. If thereÕs
changes make your changes, and go ahead and save the form. Okay? Form six and
seven, your program forms, again, youÕre going to come in and youÕre going to
review the forms to make sure all the informationÕs still correct.
If
thereÕs any minute modifications, go ahead and make it at this time. Form six
has one field asking for your experience to date for the previous grant year.
Now, during your current year, youÕre asking for funds for your next year, so
youÕre still in recurrent grant year and youÕre reporting on that. So, youÕre
probably going to have provisional data, so go ahead and put that information
that you have, and at the bottom of the page, there should be a button for
either provisional or final. Okay? So you can go ahead and provide provisional
information. As was form seven, form seven is asking for your product and
dissemination. Again, youÕre in your current year, your reporting year, so you
may not have all the information, go ahead and put what you have.
Now,
for those doing the additional data element injury EMS form, go ahead and
complete that form. Again, you may have to provide provisional information,
because youÕre still in the year that youÕre providing information on. For your
performance majors, you will -- for performance major three youÕll add any
additional publications since youÕre post-award report. For the other
performance majors, your review, your current and future objectives, and you
will also provide provisional information for your indicator or scores.
All
right, so as I have mentioned, we have two calls, we have two systems, and two
information call centers. The first one is the grants.gov contact center. You
will call these folks during your application period for your non-competing
continuation, or new application, okay? You will not need to call them during
your post-award reports. So, if you have questions about registering in the
grants.gov, or how to complete your SF424, or your checklist in grants.gov,
youÕll give this folks a call, or an email. If you have any questions about the
supplemental information for your non-competing continuation, such as your
budget narratives and your program specific information forms, youÕll give the
HRAS call center a call.
And
hereÕs our information, and also, if you have questions about your post-award
reports, theyÕll be able to give and help you out with any questions that you
may have. ThatÕs a quick, quick summary of whatÕs going to happen for your
post-award report and for your non-competing continuation. Does anybody have
any questions at this time? Yes.
UNKNOWN
SPEAKER: Are we authorized in the organizational representatives?
MARY HOEL: Typically, each organization is different. Typically the
project director, I do not believe is an authorizing official, but if itÕs a
small renovation, it may be. ItÕs the authorizing official is the person who
officially signs off on grant requests.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Right. Before you are able to submit the grant in the
AOR, correct?
MARY HOEL: Are you the project director?
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No.
MARY HOEL: IÕm sorry.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No.
MARY HOEL: No. Okay. In Grants.gov, itÕs got to have to be the authorizing
official thatÕs going to submit it. I donÕt know if your -- if the project
director and is the same person as AOR. Usually itÕs not, but in some cases it
can be. Okay?
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: My other question is, now if we donÕt submit the
various continuations grant, do that (inaudible) do we actually have to sign
before it goes to (inaudible)?
MARY HOEL: For your non-competing continuation? Yes, itÕs going to --
your program narrative is going to be in the electronic handbooks.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So the only thing in Grants.gov is all the standard
form?
MARY HOEL: Basically, itÕs going to be your SF424, and itÕs going to be
-- your going to -- there isnÕt a- - you do need to do an attachment for your
abstract. And that type really -- weÕve handed out -- there's a little note
there that says you basically need to do one sentence thing attachment saying,
ÒThe abstract for this program can be found in the problem specific information
form sixÓ. ThatÕs all you need to do in your attachment. But you will need to
upload something because they wonÕt let you submit without an attachment. You
donÕt need to send your -- put your attachments at that time, you can just put
that in one sentence attachment, and that will be -- and then youÕll do that in
an electronic handbook. Okay. Yes?
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: WhatÕs the common workbook? How come itÕs going to be
official, itÕs very, itÕs usually the university now youÕre going to have to do
it like everybody to get their permission? I mean, if I had to submit the
entire renewal and there's this signing up and before I have to get in, they
have to be done there in this process, and itÕs not in their process, even
thatÕs actually youÕve done this grant implement.
MARY HOEL: I really donÕt know the answer to that question. I mean, I
have had this question before, and unfortunately, through the electronic system
itÕs a process. You canÕt get to the electronic handbooks until the grants.gov
portion that you have to submit it. So, I donÕt know how you are going to be
able to do it. You do have all the forms, and well, you donÕt have all the
forms, and your guidance, you do have all the programs (inaudible) information
forms in your guidance, but unfortunately, itÕs a step-by-step process that to
be able to get that electronic handbooks, you would not be able to get the
electronic handbooks until you submit it in Grants.gov. So, unfortunately, it
sounds like youÕre going to have to work with AOR to figure out how you are
going to do this process now. I donÕt think I answered your question. I
apologize. Dean?
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: There are usually the non-applications, what IÕve
seen, is that information is doing Grants.gov on letÕs say, June 1 electronic
handbooks do, itÕs due two weeks later -- itÕs like--
MARY HOEL: Yes. IÕm sorry. And I failed to say that it is correct. You
have a -- the two deadlines do typically have a Grants.gov deadline and then
two weeks later, you have your electronic handbooks deadline. Okay?
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And thatÕs when the grant is complete once both of them?
MARY HOEL: Exactly. Once both of them has been submitted, one is that
final EHB, then your grant has been considered complete. Yes? Yeah, go ahead.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: My question is about the electronic handbook and you
have authorizing an official or organizational person who signs up over your
agency and then you have a project director for each identified grant. Does the
authorizing official for electronic handbooks have to approve each of the
project directors for each of the grants? Identify?
MARY HOEL: If within your organization, IÕm assuming itÕs going to be
by your organization. I donÕt know how youÕre organization works.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No I mean electronically.
MARY HOEL: Oh, electronically?
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yes.
MARY HOEL: ThatÕs why itÕs important, when you register in EHP, that
you use your grant number, because even your an authorizing official, when they
register, they should use the grant number that youÕre on. So that you both
would be linked up to the same grant. Okay? Did that –
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So. Okay. If your organization, letÕs say you have
signed up, and Person A leaves an agency, and now you need a new person, but in
the interim, you got a entered this data by July 3rd. So, if I go ahead and
register, is there an approval process thatÕs necessary for me to be able to
get into EHB because my authorizing official is now no longer present?
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No. No.
MARY HOEL: Okay. No.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: ThatÕs it? The second part to that is the project
director has to approve another person to go into electronic handbooks, and
doesnÕt receive -- do they receive an e-mail?
MARY HOEL: Yes. Yes. What theyÕll do -- are you finished with the
question?
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: No, well --
MARY HOEL: Okay.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: -- IÕll
finish the last part.
MARY
HOEL: Okay. What youÕll do is, as a project director, theyÕre going to come in,
and theyÕre going to register, and theyÕre going to put the grants into their
portfolio. Okay? ItÕs a process of doing that. The project director has to
start that process. Once the project director has done that -- well, and then
at the same time, the other team members on that grant can come in, and to
register into electronic handbooks. They will also go through a process of
adding the grants to their portfolio, but since they are not the project
director -- what basically happens in this process is an e-mail will be sent to
the project director saying, ÒSuzie Smith is asking for permission to work on
this grant,Ó and if youÕre a project director, you will receive that e-mail,
and then you will go into that electronic handbooks, and grant that person
permission to work on the grant.
UNKNOWN
SPEAKER: So, what happens if that e-mail isnÕt received by the project
director, but the person has already gone in to register?
MARY
HOEL: Well, thereÕs the two-step process.
First, youÕre going to register, and then they have to go ahead and ask
to add the grant to the portfolio. ItÕs adding -- itÕs two processes. The
registration process and then, adding the grant to the portfolio. ThatÕs the
second process they need to do, but if you donÕt receive an e-mail -- if for
some reason, the e-mail -- and the e-mail will be sent to whatever e-mail is on
the project directorÕs portfolio. Okay? So, if that is an incorrect e-mail
address, the project director will need to go in and update their profile to
make sure they have the correct e-mail, but they should be able to still go in.
If the person has gone through the process, and asking for permission
electronically, they have to ask for it electronically, and if you -- if for
some reason, your e-mail doesnÕt come through because of incorrect e-mail
address, I believe you can still go in, and go ahead and add that person to the
grant, even though -- since theyÕve already get, started the process
electronically, okay?
If
you have any further questions, youÕre going to me ask me later on or you can
also call the call center about that process. Okay? Somebody had a question, up
here, I believe -- yes.
UNKNOWN
SPEAKER: Must each form be completed in a sequential order?
MARY
HOEL: No. Well, I stand corrected. For the financial forms, you only need to do
form one first, then form two, and then form four. ThereÕs a validation between
the forms, so you need to do form one to able to go in to form two. It will not
let -- if you go to form four first, it will come up the say, ÒYou need to
complete form one first,Ó so it wonÕt let you do the incorrect thing, but yes
-- but other than that, the performance measures, and the abstracts, and the
project specific -- program information, you can go whichever order you want
to.
UNKNOWN
SPEAKER: So, the financial information is not completed if you go to down to
the other --
MARY
HOEL: Correct. Correct. Yes. Yes.
UNKNWON
SPEAKER: Did I understand correctly that theyÕll enter their financial
information first in grants.gov, and then they have to re-enter again in the
electronic handbook, or does it transfer?
MARY
HOEL: Yes. It does transfer. The data thatÕs in the electronic handbooks, the
data is transferred over -- from Grants.gov to the electronic handbooks.
UNKNOWN
SPEAKER: Then, what happens to un-obligated -- what happens with un-obligated,
carry forward, no cost extension dollars?
MARY
HOEL: Are you talking about for a non-competing continuation or post-award
report?
UNKNOWN
SPEAKER: Non-competing continuation.
MARY
HOEL: Non-competing continuation. You will -- in form one of the problem
specific information, thereÕll be a -- actually, thatÕs being pulled over from
the electronic handbooks -- yes, so that information that you put -- entered
will be brought into form one, and where youÕve entered it -- you donÕt have to
enter it several times. Once youÕve entered it, youÕve entered it. Okay? So,
you only have to enter it the one time. So, if you enter it in Grants.gov --
IÕm sorry. IÕm not an expert in Grants.gov. I know the problem specific forms
specifically but the data will be brought -- will transferred over correct to
the specific forms, so if you do have un-obligated funds that youÕre
requesting, you do need to add that into your application process.
UNKNOWN
SPEAKER: But if I understand correctly, typically the carry forward dollars
would not -- you would not be entering that in grants.gov. No.
MARY
HOEL: As I say, youÕre not -- do that in SF424. No. Okay. So, youÕll be doing
that in the electronic handbooks. Okay? YouÕll be a -- youÕll be doing your not
– un-obligated funding in the electronic handbooks. ThereÕll be a place
to enter that in there, and then when you come to do your problem specific
information forms, the data that youÕve entered in one of those forms will be
brought over to the financial forms in the problem specific information forms.
Okay?
UNKNOWN
SPEAKER: So, that would be a new data entry for the grantee if they have
carried forward this.
MARY
HOEL: Yes.
UNKNOWN
SPEAKER: Right?
MARY
HOEL: Yes.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Just using the state partnership for
example, like, I would say a state comes in November with their non-competing
continuation and itÕs for the $115,000.00 is what theyÕre requesting. Their
request for carry over is separate from that, and that carryover, that
un-obligated balance, you only need to enter in an electronic handbook.
MARY HOEL: But they canÕt enter that until theyÕve
gotten notification from grants management if thatÕs been approved.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: ThatÕs been approved. Correct.
MARY HOEL: Oh, well, okay. ThatÕs separate. I was
thinking that was more for the post-award report. For the application period,
you can say I have 100 dollars of carryover funds, and thatÕs why IÕm going to
be requesting for un-obligated balance. Is that correct?
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Sure, you could. Yeah, you could do
that, but sometimes, that process doesnÕt happen at the same time as when
people are putting in their applications.
MARY HOEL: Okay, so thatÕs the way the system was
built. That was our understanding of the system, so if you knew that you were
going to have some un-obligated funds after non-competing continuation, thatÕs
when you would ask for it. And then when you do your post-award report,
hopefully by that time, you will have received a new NGA with the un-obligated
balance at that point in time. Okay? ThatÕs how the system was built.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And then when you have that new NGA,
then you can enter. LetÕs say 115,000 is what youÕre getting for year two and
then 20,000 is your carryover, and then you can take your NGA and then enter
that information in the electronic handbook.
MARY HOEL: Okay. Are there any questions? Yes.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: ThereÕre some of us, I think there
are nine of us that are in the final year for our grant, and so weÕll be
submitting a new grant this year.
MARY HOEL: Okay.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Now as I understand it, weÕll submit
the new grant through grants.gov.
MARY HOEL: Correct.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You said that in the continuation
grant, the information automatically goes over the electronic handbooks. If
youÕre in a situation where youÕre submitting new, does it automatically go
over?
MARY HOEL: No. You will not be. For your grants to --
IÕm sorry, I have to do this. I canÕt see you.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: ItÕs fortunate for me that you
canÕt.
MARY HOEL: IÕm being videotaped, so I want to make
sure that -- for the new applications, you do not need to -- you will not be
doing your electronic handbooks, so you will only do the information in
Grants.gov. You will not be doing your program-specific information for a new
application. When you receive funding, once you receive your award --
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Then youÕll have to add the grant to
your portfolio and --
MARY HOEL: And then you will go in and you will
supply your program data at the time. So basically, four months after you --
your NGA, youÕll come in and provide that information. Now, the thing is, once
you first go into electronic handbooks, it may take you a little bit of time,
probably not a lot of time, but some time to complete your forms. But once
youÕve got that data in, youÕre set. You just going to have to basically update
and modify and provide your expenditure data and stuff. So the first timeÕs a
little longer, but in future times, doing your postal report and your
non-competing continuations itÕll be much less time because your dataÕs already
there.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So new grants, GrantÕs.gov. You
donÕt need to worry about it. For non-competing continuations, you need to
worry about grants.gov and electronic handbooks.
MARY HOEL: Correct, correct. And I canÕt urge enough
right now for you folks to go back and check to make sure that your organization
is registered in grants.gov. There have been some hiccups, like they donÕt have
DanÕs number. ThereÕre some hiccups and it can take some time. All right? So I
would highly recommend going back and checking to make sure your organization
is registered. If not, get your organization registered. Yes, thereÕs a
question at the back.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: First, it used to have to be signed
for guarantee of non-construction, guarantee of non-smoking environment. Are
those now electronically signed or do we need to print, have those signed and
send them with the face sheet?
MARY HOEL: Yes, youÕre going to have to. Yes, you
will need to print out the face sheet and have it authorized, an official sign
the form, and then hardcopy mail that in into the grants management office.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And is that done through grants.gov
for the initial application, or do those forms need to be signed annually with
each non-competitive?
MARY HOEL: Yes, the second one.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Okay.
MARY HOEL: With each non-competitive, youÕre going to
print out the face sheet from the electronic handbooks and then sign it.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: When you say face sheet, you mean
those seven or eight pages with the four different places for signature?
MARY HOEL: I believe so. Is that correct, Dan? Okay.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thank you.
MARY HOEL: I know what is the face sheet, so any
other questions? Yes.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: (Inaudible).
MARY HOEL: Congratulations.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I want to look back about a week
later and use what I have put in.
MARY HOEL: Right.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: (Inaudible)
MARY HOEL: You should be able to. There should be a
link at the bottom. LetÕs say View Report. It wouldnÕt let you do that. Okay.
Well once itÕs submitted, you should be able to come back and view it. I will
check with our technical folks when I get back today to make sure that link is
working. But you should have at the bottom, I think there should be a link that
says View Report.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: It let me for like a day.
MARY HOEL: It let you for a day.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And then I went back a week later. I
donÕt know. I donÕt want to go print that.
MARY HOEL: Right.
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And it wouldnÕt let me.
MARY HOEL: Okay, let me. If I can talk to you
afterwards, I can check and get your contact information, and I can look into
it and let you know. Because I believe you should be able to view it after you
submitted it, even though after a week or more later. Okay, IÕll let you know.
One more question?
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, (Inaudible) continuation is
not as bad as a deal, but when it is a competing, a lot of us have our internal
peer review process that we have to. How soon before that grant announcement
comes out can individuals go into grants.gov, get our budget sheets done on
that because a budget has to go to your fiscal people to get approval, the
grant itself has to go through other people for peer review. What is the time
frame? Because for some of us, our states says we have to have that a month in
advance. I want to know, do I need to start priming the pump and say, ÒHey,
that isnÕt going to happen with these grants.Ó
MARY HOEL: You wonÕt be able to get into if youÕre
talking about a new application. Correct? Okay. You will not be able to get in
electronically until the funding announcement has been released. And that means
thatÕs when the guidance has been released. If you do, you should. I mean we
refer to Dan on this one. If you know that itÕs coming up and you may have the
information, you could probably go ahead and start the process, but you canÕt
do it electronically.
Now, however, you typically have at least a month
once you receive your funding announcement to have your grants.gov due date.
And thatÕs typically a non-competing continuation. With new rewards, itÕs
usually much longer, isnÕt it? ItÕs usually 60 days. So thatÕs quite some time.
Does that answer your question? Okay. All right. Well, I thank you for your
time, and as I say, IÕll be here. If you have any further questions, feel free
to ask me and IÕll be around. Okay? Have a good day.