Annual EMSC Grantee Meeting

T1 Grant and PECARN Reps

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June 20 – 22, 2006

MARK ADLER: Fire station in order to log in and even then, it’s dial-up. So all of those were things we’ve considered. Yes?

UNKNOWN SPEAKER: It seems to me that technology barrier will fall in terms of not even just about with technology but also being able to get an input of new technology (inaudible) I think it’s more -- it’s the idea of building contents that is captivating and interesting and you can be used in this environment what ever that this environment is, is this platform free aspect to it that I think where we should be putting our most energy in terms of this kind of relationship.

MARK ADLER: Right. And things are moving fast. Like Mike was talking about, there are actually products here that will do this for you. Three years ago, we actually started four years ago, those products weren’t there, we were developing them. We would see articles come out in PC Magazine talking about things that people are doing and we’re like, well we did that six months ago.

UKNOWN SPEAKER: We’re in the wrong business.

MARK ADLER: We did that six months ago. So, it wasn’t out there but now it is so, yes, go for it.

ROBERT SAPIEN: There’s one other (inaudible). Aiming for high technology means let’s say, we use videos and we also use Windows and Windows Media Player comes in various flavors up through now a lot of them I think. It possible to say that, “I like Windows Media 9 and I want to write in Windows Media 9 but guess what? My institution won’t install Windows Media 9 and they put it behind the firewall and you have to have user access to get on it.” If you’re looking at institutional audience, be very careful, I mean home-users can upgrade their computers but I can’t. But if I had one target audience, which is all the nurses in the hospital and all their workstations are locked. And they’re not around, the Flash haven’t been upgraded for a year and they’re not upgrading Windows Media. So that would be a real waste if I were doing that. So, you really have to be careful about looking at your end-user for technology.

MARK ADLER: We can’t access this site with the Flash or the video in our own hospital. We can do it in on the university computers but not in our own hospital because of all of that.

UNKNOWN SPEAKER: You had mentioned a couple of times about not being interactive. You wanted more interactivity with the sites and for the educational experience. I was curious, should you come up with some creative ways to increase the interactivity or see where it’s headed there.

MARK ADLER: If you have that extra step of programming then indeed, it’ll talk back to you so you pick an answer and it says, “They’re not right for these reasons, you know, this isn’t the actually correct.” We just made it so that it always gives you the correct answer.

ROBERT SAPIEN: The newest version of Flash the one we release before, came out with more educational concept, structures built into it that does that for you now. We’ll look at database and correct it. But I’m sure--

MARK ADLER: When we were starting, so now, we could just turn around and buy the product or we should have been marketed the product that probably what we should have done.

UNKNOWN SPEAKER: One of the things that I think was brought up I think in the beginning of the session was the number of ENTs in every state. Five, ten thousand, fifty thousand depends on the state and the number of people who have access the material. So, I was wondering if you have some thoughts as to what you have and your getting to the point of getting the complete set of modules up. How do you plan to advertise what you got and other than the CE, if, could you comment on the cost per person. You said you have to buy a license. So I think that you know if you build a really nice box, and no one wants to play with it because they don’t know about it, that’s the problem. Or they don’t want to play with it because someone else has the boxes and get to the middle of it. But how much is that going to cost?

MARK ADLER: Well, there are, there’s dissemination every time we give a talk and we talk a fair amount about the curriculum. We’ve hand out; you have it in your pocket the web page. So that’s a start. So pretty much all 300 nurses, school nurses in New Mexico know that its online, soon and coming. We also, I use that same triage video and I give talks at school nurse conferences. And so I plug it then. This is what, this is truly only word-mouth at that point. And then, I don’t know as far as the C.E. is, Robert, do you want to talk about a little bit more about the what we’ve had to do to try to get those?

ROBERT SAPIEN: That’s just really annoying bureaucracy (inaudible) CD.

MARK ADLER: But we had to reach, our choice was to get a license, which is used every, some like 35 hundred dollars.

ROBERT SAPIEN: Thirty five hundred dollars for the CE. So you know, there’s NIA and MIF layers in the last instead of choosing which one to go, with how much it costs, and then approval procedure, and I don’t know how else, what else to say. It’s a long story.

MARK ADLER: And then for the EMTC is in New Mexico if you are a Medical Director of an EMS service you can grant CEs to the EMTs. So that was easy. I just did that myself. But these one’s are little bit more onerous and I don’t know about the cost so.

UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Do you buy a license or your responsible for accreditation keeping up with certain accreditation. Things are really confusing.

MARK ADLER: You’re always, even if you don’t buy a license, you’re always up for audits. So they can always come and audit you, which is why we have to know who’s taking it.

UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Thank you. (Inaudible)? I wish you’d come into that (inaudible).

UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yes. So please give it to me on your way out. Thank you.

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