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BARBARA YAWN: While we have
the technology support person, I can do the first part without the slides. In
addition to the introduction that was so kindly given in the first place, I
wanted to explain another little piece of why I think that I may be here. You've
heard about many minority groups of women. There's another minority group of
women that I represent, and those are rural women, women who don't live in some
of the areas where a lot of the research studies get done. They don't have
access to some of the care, and most of the research that I do is rural health
research. I'm also a family physician researcher, and there's about five or six
of us around the country that are women. There are a few more that are men. But
we do research out in practice, we do it in practice-based research networks,
and we work with you where you go get your primary care. It's called
"translational research," but I think it's extremely important because what we
try to do is take the kind of research that NIH in the past has paid for and
randomize control trials based in academic medical centers, and we try to
translate that into information that can be used in your community with the clinicians
and the community members that you have available to you and with the resources
you have available to you, which usually isn't all the study coordinators that
other people in most of the randomized control trials.
So that's a little bit about
what I do and where I come from. And what I'm going to do today is use an
example of a study that I've done to show you how we move and do research in a
little different area, and it may be helpful to point out some other additional
problems. I'd like to thank my coworkers on this study and thank the Agency for
Healthcare Research and Quality for funding it. What was the purpose of looking
at this study? I wanted to understand heart disease in women in the period when
prevention is most effective and when it hasn't been studied nearly as much. I
wanted to understand it before the first diagnosis of coronary heart disease is
made and before the first coronary event. I wanted to base the study in primary
care. We're part of the problem, and we've got to be part of the solution as
primary care clinicians and clinics. The issue of gender has really not been
addressed terribly well in that initial consideration of heart disease. So the
objectives of the study that I worked on were determining the timing of
coronary heart disease diagnosis, determine the likelihood and timing of
assessment of risk factors and the likelihood of treatment of recognized risk
factors, and all of this in women. This is a study that's a retrospective
cohort study. I looked at medical records.
And by the way, for those of
you that are trying to follow in the notebook, give up. I changed the slides
last night. There are a couple of them there, but you can take them home. They're
useful for that. But it's a medical record review study. I looked at women who
had had a confirmed heart attack, or myocardium infarction, and I looked back
10 years before that. And you could say, "How in the world can you do that?" Well,
I live in Olmstead County, Minnesota, and we have a very unique ability in
Olmstead County to do very long-term studies because we have a data
infrastructure that really nowhere else in the country has. All medical
care—and there are three major medical groups—share this information, so I
can track a patient across all of their medical care that can come into my
office, or my husband's, who is a general internist, office. And I track that
care when they go to the emergency room, if they get referred to tertiary care
at that other large institution across the street who some people may know the
name of that I won't mention at the moment. Then, we can still track them.
So we can follow women for a
very long time, and people in rural areas, as you probably know, tend not to
move around as much as people do in more urban areas. So actually, 90 percent
of these women had been in the area for at least five years before their
myocardium infarction, and 70 percent had been there for nine years or longer. So
you can track. The population, however, isn't very representative of the U.S. It's
over 95 percent White/non-Hispanic in this age group. We have a tremendous
change in our community, and if you look at our children, 50 percent of our
children are White/non-Hispanic, and the other 50 percent are a variety of Asian,
African-American, Somalis—who prefer to be called "Africans" and not
"African-Americans"—and other groups that we have. So we will be changing in a
few years. We have people that have insurance primarily, so what we have
perhaps is a best-case scenario, and if we have problems in a best-case
scenario, it may suggest we have even more in the rest of it. We looked at risk
factors, and I just wanted to remind you quickly of what were the risk factors.
Most of these are modifiable. Unfortunately, smoking didn't get on there. Positive
family history somehow made it on there instead of smoking, and I apologize.
But hypertension, diabetes,
smoking, elevated cholesterol, overweight, and obesity are the most commonly
known modifiable risk factors, and these are the ones we looked at. What are
our results? We had 150 women. And you say, "Well, that's a pretty small
number," but you have to remember we looked at every single visit these women
had for 10 years. So we looked at over 8000 visits, almost 9000 visits; 457
hospitalizations; nine years' follow up. The women had their first MI at an
average age of about 74, but there was a woman as young as 39 and one that was
almost 100 the day she had her MI. The results that are important, coronary
heart disease was recognized and diagnosed in only 52 percent of these women
prior to their first cardiac event. It was less common in those less than 70,
those who are probably most amenable to our preventive intervention. It wasn't
that these women didn't have risk factors. Ninety-eight percent of them had one
or more modifiable risk factors recognized primary to their first MI.
This slide I hope you can
read. This looks a little bit at the age across the top at which they had their
first heart attack, and the two on the side are whether or not they received a
diagnosis prior to their first MI. And you can see as you go along in the age
groups, suddenly the top number somewhere around age 65 gets larger than the
bottom number. So women were more likely to get a diagnosis prior to their
event. But all of those women less than 65 didn't know that they had heart
disease. The treatment of the risk factors that were recognized varied. Eighty-one
percent of the women who had hypertension or high blood pressure received some
type of drug therapy. Only 28 percent of those with elevated or abnormal lipids
received drug therapy. And those of you that know about drug therapy or therapy
for lipids know that telling people, "Oh, would you just eat right and exercise?"
works about as well in lipids as it does in obesity or overweight—not very
well. So we have a huge gap between the number of recognized risk factors and
the number of treated risk factors. I didn't even go the next step and put up
the ones that reached goal for that treatment. It's even too discouraging. It's
too early in the morning for that.
A diagnosis of coronary
heart disease did increase the likelihood of getting these risk factors
treated, which helps confirm that it is important to have a diagnosis. It seems
to help with the teachable moment for both the clinician and perhaps the
patient and family. This is the number of risk factors these women had. The
first is five years before their MI, and the second is at any time. You can see
that five years before their first heart attack, there were many women with
multiple risk factors. These women were perfect candidates for preventive
services, preventive services that they didn't receive. This is the timing of
their diagnosis before their first heart attack. The line in the middle of the
black one is everyone combined, but the line at the top is after age 70. It's
the line at the bottom that I don't like very well. That's the gold line. These
are the younger women, women less than 70, who are much less likely to be
diagnosed with coronary heart disease. This is the documentation of their risk
factors. You can see, especially hypertension, very, very prevalent. And
remember, these are White, middle class women. It would probably look even
higher in other ethnic minority groups.
So why are these women being
missed? Did they have no visits? No. I told you they had almost 9000 visits in
10 years among these 150 women. Did they have no symptoms? No, we have the data
for that; and unfortunately, it's not analyzed sufficiently to present it to
you. But these women did present with symptoms. Did they have different
symptoms? Yes, they did, and a lot of those symptoms went unrecognized as
coronary heart disease symptoms. Were they given other diagnoses? Yes, and when
we started this study, we were joking a little bit that a woman came in and had
kind of a discomfort in her abdomen and her chest, and she got a valium and a
referral to the psychiatric service, and the men got a treadmill. It wasn't
quite that bad, but there were many times that that's what happened. And when
these women got another diagnosis, and that other diagnosis did not prove to
solve the problem, they didn't get reevaluated for coronary vascular disease or
coronary heart disease. Physician inattentiveness? Probably. Physicians, again,
not thinking heart disease when a 50-year-old or a 45-year-old or even a
65-year-old woman comes in. Cultural issues? Absolutely, I believe. There's
women's culture, we talked about this yesterday a little bit; lack of
awareness, as Dr. Wenger pointed out; lack of resources; and family needs
first. You hear that again and again, "Well, I'm not going to go in. This is
just a little indigestion discomfort because I have to do this or that or the
other with my children, my grandchildren, whomever." We have a lot of cultural
issues.
In about 10 days—actually,
in two weeks exactly—my son is getting married to a Cambodian woman in a very
elaborate Buddhist ceremony in which she changes clothes 21 times, which is
going to be fascinating. But I talked to my son's future mother-in-law a little
bit. She is from Cambodia and has been here for about a third of her life is
all. And when we talked about heart disease, she said, "When I carried my
children through the killing fields," she didn't call them that, I did, she
described them very vividly, "of Cambodia to get to the refugee camp in
Thailand, my heart was broken. When I watched them kill my brother and my
father, my sisters, and my first husband, my heart was broken. How can you talk
to me about heartbreak or heart disease?" It brought home to me that I don't
understand where people come from many times, and how can I talk about
something that really isn't very important to them when their heart, as she
said, is already broken? The Mung culture is one that's very prevalent in
Minnesota, also has a very different perception of heart disease and what it
means to have bad things going around in your body like cholesterol. And then,
there's rural. Rural does have a culture. Anyone who tells me that there is no
difference between rural people and non-rural people has never lived in a rural
community. Thank you.
And there's different rural
cultures. My husband is from rural Georgia, and we've lived in rural Midwest
and Minnesota. They are not the same, either. What do we do about disseminating
these findings? We've got to get this kind of information out again and again
and make people think it's interesting enough to listen to and do something
about. We've got to evaluate what they mean, but we have to translate this
information. What gaps does this show? We have to talk to all the parties
involved. I want to do what we now call participatory research. I want to go
out into communities. I want the community to decide what my research questions
should be along with me helping them decide what the research questions should
be. Thank you. I also want people to create, but I don't want you to create
without evaluating, please. I see huge, fantastic projects that are going on;
but nobody is assessing why they work or even if they do work. I don't think
that's as prevalent in this group as it is in others, but how does that help to
know this works in Chicago? Well, how would that translate to Brooklyn or to
Rochester, Minnesota or to Macon, Georgia? Please evaluate.
My time is up, and I have a
conclusion. Missed opportunities: 48 percent of these women in this White,
middle-class, best-case scenario didn't have a diagnosis of coronary heart
disease before their event. The women less than 70 were much less likely. I
think we have failed prevention. I can't tell you if it's a gender bias. I
guess I don't even care if it's a gender bias. It's a big problem that we have
to solve. Thank you.
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