WENDY MOURADIAN: Well, I was just--I--I don't think really--we really have time for open discussion, at least if we're going to end at 11:30, we could certainly extend the session, but I know you're ready to leave, half of you are staying. Maybe I'll just say this, this conference exceeded my expectations because you exceeded my expectations in the sense of what a group of people could accomplish in the limited amount of time. And, I think--I was thinking about this, I think every single group engaged in almost every single skill that we identified as a domain area here. You had to collaborate, communicate. You all used intensive critical thinking to pull this together very quickly. And, so, these were leadership tasks and I think the reason why this conference exceeded--you exceeded my expectations is because you were all able as mature MCH leaders to bring to bear these abilities very quickly and easily. With--probably without even realizing you were doing it.

So, I'll just share a few points on what I thought we did and maybe those of you who are going to stay can think about the next steps. I think it was an accomplishment getting all of you together across the categories to sit down and be able to do this. By thinking both horizontally and vertically about these domains, I think we have a certain validation. We were lumping, splitting and lumping. The amount of redundancy is extremely validating to me. As we look at the components of all of these complex activities in domain areas that we identified, and I think that will set the stage this afternoon for us condensing and consolidating some of these components. I think we begin to--began to identify gaps in training for faculty who aren't going to be able to train--for trainees and for us as faculty, and we began to think about measurement frameworks in the--in the very first stages. I think we also brought up a--are beginning to get our hands around a conceptual model for leadership development, which includes this developmental trajectory and now thinks about how we would imagine this in different skill areas, looking to our--at entrance, in terms of selection criteria, for performance during training, and for evaluation down the line. And, I think that we have created relationships here that will both lead to more collaboration and ideas within our own groups and institutions, and nationally. I had--well, actually, Lynn Levin suggested we get together, not just--two kinds of getting together, could this group, the MCH be leadership training programs have a portion of the day when--time when we're going to be in DC in October, yes, great.

Second, Lynn suggested, she said, these groups need to get together, in other words, our individual groups have done such deep thinking about these areas already that we may want to think about, as a follow up, that these groups either electronically or at that meeting reconfigure in portion or in--in--completely, depending upon who's able to come. Because I think we really have gotten our hands around in a very profound way around some of the more complex skills that we see leaders using. And, then I think we identified two paradigmatic areas, and I'm going to suggest that policy and advocacy is the other area along with building constituencies that utilizes almost every one of the skills. And, so, as we compared apples and oranges, things began to sort out and consolidate, and I think these kinds of activities are things we could look at as presenting to trainees models and case studies, which incorporate and provide a context to all these somewhat abstract sounding skills, like negotiation or critical thinking. So, with that I will close so we're on time. And, thank you all very much, and thank again, the Maternal and Child Health Bureau and our project officer and training and branch and division leaders for participating through this with us, to both provide support ideas and it's very gratifying to me to know that we have a direct lien to you in terms of the partnership that's going to utilize the output of this to the improvement of--of MCH outcomes. So, thank you. Thank you all.

JEFF:And, I would say once again, as we did yesterday, we should all thank Wendy and Penny for organizing this. And--and Colleen, excuse me, Colleen, too.